{"id":1203,"date":"2016-03-08T07:30:48","date_gmt":"2016-03-08T06:30:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/vaticanfiles.org\/?p=1203"},"modified":"2016-03-08T07:38:13","modified_gmt":"2016-03-08T06:38:13","slug":"121-karl-barth-and-vatican-ii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/vaticanfiles.org\/it\/2016\/03\/121-karl-barth-and-vatican-ii\/","title":{"rendered":"121. Karl Barth and Vatican II"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>March 8th, 2016<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The interpretation of Roman Catholicism by Karl Barth went through a major change, if not a turning point, with Vatican II (1962-1965). The Council, to which the Swiss theologian did not take part but which he closely followed during and after the conclusion of the sessions, represented for him a testimony of how Roman Catholicism had taken a substantially new direction, away from the mere reiteration of the inherited legacy of XVI century anti-Protestantism, XIX century anti-revolutionary conservatism and the absolutist rigidity of Vatican I (1870).<\/p>\n<p>The opportunity to meditate on this change is provided in the book by Donald W. Norwood, <i>Reforming Rome: Karl Barth and Vatican II<\/i> (Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 2015). In this study, based on a doctoral thesis, the English theologian of the United Reformed Church Donald Norwood, examines the understanding of Vatican II by Barth. Norwood is aware that Barth had taken a polemical stance before Vatican II, whereas after Vatican II he emerges as a more \u201ccatholic\u201d theologian, that is wanting to address the church in its entirety and totality beyond well-entrenched confessional boundaries. Thinking of Karl Barth\u2019s trajectory, Reinhard H\u00fctter speaks of it as a theological vision marked by \u201cdialectical catholicity\u201d (p. 80) whereby Barth is a catholic theologian, still maintaining his dialectical approach towards the Bible, tradition and the ecclesiastical outlook of the church.<\/p>\n<p><i>A Change of Approach<\/i><\/p>\n<p>In reading Vatican II, Barth was struck by the recovery of the Word of God especially reflected in <i>Dei Verbum<\/i>, the dogmatic constitution on divine revelation. He saw Catholic theology embracing a more \u201cdynamic\u201d view of the Word of God that in some ways resembled his theology of the Word. According to this shared dynamic understanding of the Word of God, the Bible is the Word only in a relative and secondary sense. The point is that the non-identity view of the Bible and the Word of God was shared both by Barth and Vatican II and gave both theologies their \u201cdynamic\u201d flavor.<\/p>\n<p>Barth was also impressed by a Christocentic emphasis of the Council (especially in <i>Lumen Gentium<\/i>, the dogmatic constitution on the Church) that may be compared to the Christological concentration of his own theology. Finally, he was further impressed by the desire for unity that he read in the conciliar texts. Bringing all of these elements together, Barth became convinced that the remaining differences between Protestantism and Roman Catholicism were no longer matters of theological substance but needed only to be perceived as multiple emphases within the one and only Church. If before Vatican II Barth had charged Rome of being trapped in the philosophical prison of <i>analogia entis<\/i> (analogy of being), after Vatican II he endorsed the view according to which the two traditions were ecumenically complementary.<\/p>\n<p>After Vatican II Barth underlined the more \u201ccatholic\u201d elements of the Roman Church focusing on commonalities, rather than criticizing the \u201croman\u201d aspects of the Catholic Church which might have been controversial. This does not mean that Barth stopped asking deep questions and suggesting issues for discussion; rather his attitude as a whole changed, becoming more ecumenically minded. Norwood mainly focuses on the ecclesiological issues with which Barth continued to critically engage Roman Catholicism, as well as the Catholic readings of Barth by Yves Congar, Hans Urs von Balthasar, and others who did not stop arguing with him. In fact, after Vatican II ecclesiology remains for Barth the decisive difference, while the rest (even Mariology, that for the pre-Vatican II\u00a0 Barth was the quintessential Catholic error!) is in some way subsumed into the compatible diversity of a plural Christianity. Having said that, for Barth acknowledging ecclesiological diversity no longer means taking a divisive posture with regards to the Roman Catholic Church (p. 188).<\/p>\n<p><i>Standing Issues<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Norwood offers a detailed and sympathetic reading of Barth\u2019s interpretation of Vatican II. From the 1960s onwards, the compatibilist and complementary understanding of the relationship between Protestantism and Roman Catholicism became the common denominator of the ecumenical movement to which Barth belonged with conviction.<\/p>\n<p>The gigantic stature of Karl Barth is undeniable, but these are some of his limits: despite having called attention to the Word of God, his theology of the Word has not actually prevented the long wave of theological liberalism, marked by severe skepticism towards the trustworthiness of the Bible, to become the framework of mainstream Protestantism. In terms of the Protestant evaluation of Roman Catholicism, Barth\u2019s theology of the Word has weakened the evangelical ability to assess Rome having the Bible as supreme standard and has encouraged a dialectical approach which has moved away from <i>Sola Scriptura<\/i>. Moreover, his seemingly Christocentric theology has been unable to discern the idiosyncratic nature of the Roman Catholic sacramental system, its Mariology and hierarchical structure, thus making all these fundamental elements apparently compatible with a biblical Christology.<\/p>\n<p>These criticisms are not shared by Norwood, but the question of whether or not Karl Barth\u2019s reading of Vatican II has been beneficial to the Church is worth asking.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>You may be interested in this webinar<\/p>\n<div align=\"left\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/r20.rs6.net\/tn.jsp?e=001sdcDnE6PGPMUWKTi92MUFHceZfM0mC_TWIH8tajdwJiZZoe7_NBMX_mkks9JzR_5FkfHY43xfN5HUT2qXq4Hzpc9IKd1TExSeaebI5pysFd0YoJUsB9kGalsWnM_Fvka_RWHXKHLtR2-pX5EcOZ3Tsit9r3B2LonkrwznQNHkoE=\" target=\"_blank\" shape=\"rect\">Aggiornamento or what happened at Vatican II?<\/a><\/strong><\/div>\n<div align=\"left\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"left\">with<\/div>\n<div align=\"left\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"left\"><a href=\"http:\/\/r20.rs6.net\/tn.jsp?e=001sdcDnE6PGPMUWKTi92MUFHceZfM0mC_TWIH8tajdwJiZZoe7_NBMX_mkks9JzR_5FkfHY43xfN5HUT2qXq4Hzpc9IKd1TExSAKj0v5LqwKw6LKS6qCuJPhPiQ2GPY4Vv9yHVw68zwoE=\" target=\"_blank\" shape=\"rect\">Leonardo De Chirico<\/a><\/div>\n<div align=\"left\"><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div align=\"left\">\n<div align=\"left\">\n<div align=\"left\">\n<div align=\"left\"><strong>Date &amp; Time:<\/strong><\/div>\n<div align=\"left\"><\/div>\n<div align=\"left\"><strong>17 Mar 2016, 18:00 (London Time)<\/strong><\/div>\n<div align=\"left\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The Second Vatican Council from 1962 to 1965, also known as &#8216;Vatican II&#8217;, is widely regarded as one of the most significant events of the twentieth century. Beside the immense influence exerted on Catholic theology and life, the Council has brought aggiornamento to the Roman Church.<\/p>\n<p>Aggiornamento, or a bringing up to date, does not denote reformation in the evangelical sense but neither is it a merely political and linguistic device aimed at concealing an unchanging reality. It is instead the Catholic way of responding to the need for some form of renewal without altering the fundamental structure inherited from the past.<\/p>\n<p>This webinar will examine the historical significance of Vatican II and its theological outcomes that continue to shape Roman Catholic identity today.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sign up here:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/foclonline.org\/webinar\/aggiornamento-or-what-happened-vatican-ii<\/p>\n<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/dot.png\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top: 5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Google Plus\",\"Pinterest\",\"Linkedin\",\"Email\",\"Print\");var hupso_background_t=\"#EAF4FF\";var hupso_border_t=\"#66CCFF\";var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"medium\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_url_t=\"\";var hupso_title_t=\"121.%20Karl%20Barth%20and%20Vatican%20II%20\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/share_toolbar.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>March 8th, 2016 The interpretation of Roman Catholicism by Karl Barth went through a major change, if not a turning point, with Vatican II (1962-1965). 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